Постојам - I Exist

This music video by Myatta features scenes from archive documentary films about the ethnic cleansing of Macedonians during the Greek Civil War of 1946-49, accompanied with humanistic lyrics: "I exist... Everything is forgiven, even your wish for me to be no more".



Lyrics in Macedonian language:

Постојам

Успешно ги скроив сите рани кои ги прави
таа коба длабоко во тебе.
Онемев за твоите зборови, за твоите немири
да ништиш мое сé.

Собирав љубов небесна,
собрав и снага да те гледам.
Можам да кажам сега, остана сé зад мене.
ПОСТОЈАМ!!!

Простено е сé,
од ова срце повтор штом те сретне.
Простено ти е,
и твојта желба да ме нема веќе.
... Израснав,
разбрав како да живеам...

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MHRMI Demands End to Greece's Discrimination of Macedonian Political Refugees

Macedonian Human Rights Movement International (MHRMI) - Press Release



Toronto, Canada, June 21, 2008 - MHRMI calls on the international community to demand that Greece finally end its discrimination of its large Macedonian minority, and specifically, Macedonian political refugees and allow their 4th World Reunion on July 20, 2008 to proceed unimpeded.

This year marks the 60th anniversary of the evacuation by the International Red Cross of 28,000 Macedonian children (Detsa Begaltsi), aged 2-14, during the Greek Civil War. They were subsequently stripped of their Greek citizenship and have been consistently denied entry into Greece simply because they assert their Macedonian ethnic identity. They were excluded from the 1982 law that allowed the free return of political refugees who were “Greek by genus”.

"This will be the last chance for many Detsa Begaltsi, who are now in their 60's and 70's, to visit their birthplaces. Greek officials had promised to allow us entry for our last reunion in 2003 only to ultimately turn us back. This cannot happen again," said Risto Cackirovski, President of ARCAM (Association of Refugee Children from Aegean Macedonia).

"Greece openly blacklists Canadian, American and Australian citizens of Macedonian descent. The governments of these countries, among others, must protect the rights of their citizens and demand from Greece that this practice be ceased immediately or face repercussions," said MHRMI President Bill Nicholov.

MHRMI calls on international government officials, media, human rights organizations and other interested parties to attend the border crossing between the Republic of Macedonia and Greece at Medjitlia/Niki on July 20, 2008 to monitor Greece's compliance with its obligations under international human rights law.

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Refugees from Aegean Macedonia expect a positive court ruling

In these "moments of unseen Greek hysteria and aggressiveness over Macedonia" the refugees from Aegean Macedonia are expecting to win over the Greek politics with a ruling from the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. They heard information that despite Greek lobbying, the court will bring a decision which orders Greece to cancel the laws which forbid them to come back to their properties. The decision is expected to come at the same time as the organized "Fourth World Meeting of the Children Refugees", which will take place in Skopje next month.



- "In moments of unseen Greek hysteria and aggressiveness over Republic of Macedonia, during fierce pressures and denial of our historic name and our Macedonian national identity, we are witnessing a wide unification of the Macedonian people and strengthening of our national spirit, which gives us new power and motivation to crown our meeting in July, together with the Macedonians from all parts of the planet, with another victory over the forces of anti-macedonism and their plans to cut the Macedonian national root", - said Georgi Ajanovski, President of the organizational committee of the "Fourth World Meeting of the Children Refugees".

Greece was lobbying against the decision because it will need to reimburse about 20.000 "children refugees", or their heirs. They will also request from United Nations to make public the archived material about their displacement during and after the Greek Civil War in 1948. Invitations for the Meeting in Skopje will also be sent to Ban Ki Mun, the General Secretary of UN, and to the governments in Poland, Romania, Hungary, Check Republic, Slovenia, Croatia and Serbia, because these countries gave shelter to the children refugees, with the help of the International Red Cross. The meeting will be held from 18th to 21st of July 2008.

Link: Refugees from Aegean Macedonia expect to win over the Greek aggressive politics in the Court in Strasbourg (Channel 5, in Macedonian language).

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Spiegel: How to Solve the Greek Dispute over Macedonia's Name

The German newspaper Spiegel makes a summary of the Greek problem with our name, and gives his vision of a possible resolution of this issue - in NATO.



First, it is important to get the facts straight - Greece objects to something, but Macedonia objects to nothing:

... there is a fundamental difference in approaches in the two countries: Greece objects to the Macedonian claims to the legacy of Alexander the Great, but Macedonia does not object to corresponding Greek claims... Greece is bothered not just by the name, but what the name represents -- an independent ethnic Macedonian identity.

The article also explains why the ethnic identity of the Macedonians bothers it so much:

... palpable Greek fear that the adjacent Macedonian state -- with an intact, distinct Macedonian identity -- will become a platform for Greece’s minorities to challenge the status quo. Under Greek law and practice, there are no ethnic minorities. Human rights groups like Human Rights Watch have documented systematic harassment and discrimination of those who attempt to express group or cultural rights.

An interesting quotation by a Greek scholar Anna Triandafyllidou from the "New Greek Nationalism" is also included in this Spiegel article:

Since the achievement of national independence (1829-30), the Greek state has engaged in a process of construction in which its ethnic origins have been in remote antiquity. The historical trajectory of the nation has been traced in a linear form and without ruptures or discontinuities from antiquity to modernity. Thus, any changes which have marked the past and the history of the national community have been reconstructed in such a way that the nation is represented as a homogeneous and compact unit.

This quotation summarizes the outcome of the Greek veto for Macedonia at the NATO summit in Bucharest, earlier this year:

In Washington, the Greek ambassador exulted: "NATO endorsed our position at Bucharest... The requirement to solve the name issue is no longer a Greek position, it is now a NATO position and a multilateral matter".

And here is the core idea, presented in the final passage of the article, named "Fixing the Mistakes of Bucharest":

Already there are signs that Greece is mounting pressure on Macedonia to buckle and accept its position in advance of a European Commission decision on whether to recommend a date for accession talks this fall. And there are also signs that Athens’ position on the name has hardened as well. Sources with knowledge of the negotiations say that Greece is advancing its demands not only that the new name for Macedonia contain a geographical reference (like “Upper Macedonia”), but that this new name be used in all contexts. Athens’ position on “scope of use” may grow to include bilateral relations with other countries, and even Macedonia’s own internal use (for example, stipulating the use of “Upper Macedonia” on the Macedonian passport). Greece is also resisting Macedonia’s demands that its language and nationality be formally recognized by the United Nations...

... Rather than adopt a counterproductive tone of confrontation, the United States must rhetorically step to the side of the Greeks. Bringing along those allies aware of the risks for Kosovo and Macedonia, the United States should move to convene the North Atlantic Council (NAC) for an urgent session to accept the Greek interpretation of the Bucharest communiqué. But it should not stop there. The NAC must simultaneously ask the NATO Secretary General to provide a "full and complete report on all dimensions of the name dispute" within 30 days. The NAC resolution should cite the requirement in NATO's founding document "for peaceful and friendly international relations" and related obligations in the charter of the United Nations (particularly on human rights). As a result, the NATO Secretary General will have to turn to an array of organizations and individuals, including the UN mediator, the OSCE High Commissioner on National Minorities, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, and private organizations like Human Rights Watch.

So basically, the author suggests that NATO could help in resolving the issue by ensuring all sides of the coin are seen. This means a complete scanning of all aspects of the problem, including the treatment of the minorities and the racist laws that keep the Macedonians to get back their land, after 60 years of the Greek Civil War. This procedure will help get to the bottom of the problem, instead of constantly working on it's surface, and bringing additional Greek demands on the table, demands that nobody is willing to compromise on.

Link: How to Solve the Greek Dispute over Macedonia's Name.

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Denis MacShane: Europe needs to speak with one voice

This is a small excerpt from today's commentary in Independent, "Europe needs to speak with one voice" by Denis MacShane.

Or take the Western Balkans, Europe's backyard which European leaders were unable to stop from chaos in the 1990s until the US got involved.

A decade later, the US and major EU nations have recognised Kosovo just as other breakaway nations from the former Yugoslavia now have full state-hood. A victory for partnership between the US and a united EU? Anything but. Key EU nations like Spain, Greece, Romania and Slovakia weaken the unity of Europe by refusing to recognise Kosovo. Greece blocks Macedonia's EU and Nato ambitions while Spain lobbies in Latin America against recognition for Kosovo. This bodes ill for the notion that a united EU diplomacy of weight can develop.

Yes, it is true, Greece is one of the cooks that are adding a bit more salt than necessary. And yes, it bothers other people.

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I didn't want my kids to grow in a blind nationalistic country

Ingeborg Beugel is a Dutch reporter and author of several documentaries about the crimes committed in Bosnia. In an interview for the online site Sarajevo-x.com, she talks about the rise of the Greek nationalism and the participation of Greek mercenaries in the war in Bosnia, including the Srebrenica massacre.



She was married to a Greek, and lived a social life surrounded by the Greek political elite, watching first hand how the socialists around Papandreu "made a total mess, and by the end of the 80-ties, the socialist government proved to be as inefficient and corrupt as all the previous ones, which were selfish dictatorships". She delayed her departure, only to decide later she's had enough! I will briefly reprint a few of her points here:

• 'I was very surprised that the Greek people ignored what was going on in the neighboring countries. The Greek press, minus a very few brave exceptions, was blindly copying the Milosevic war propaganda. They refused to read other sources, and when they did, they would attribute the reports about ethnic cleansing to the "conspiracies from the jews, Turks and Vatican".'
• 'While debating about what was going on in Serbia, Bosnia, Macedonia or Kosovo, I lost a lot of my Greek friends, because they simply didn't believe in what I was witnessing, what I saw with my own eyes. They kept going back to the conflicts and unresolved issues in the Balkans from the Middle Ages, and refused to look at the present.'
• She traveled with a group of Greek journalists to some Bosnian towns, where they witnessed many heart-breaking stories of atrocities made by both sides of the war. Her insisting that the other reporters should equally write down the both sides made the majority of the group hostile towards her (someone even suggested they should leave her in the middle of the war zone). However, although it was expected for the reporters to be neutral, when they got back to Greece, everyone except her, wrote only about the atrocities over the Serb population, ignoring those made over the Bosnians. When she asked her colleagues why they chose to ignore the Bosnian side, they answered that if they did so, they would surely lose their jobs.
• 'During all that time I heard talks about the dangers from the "Muslim spear" - the possibility that Kosovo joins Albania, which would then put Greece in a sandwich between two Muslim countries: Albania and Turkey. On the other side, Greece was the only EU country that supported the Palestinian side in their conflict with Israel. Also, their "Orthodox love" disappeared when they were fighting the Macedonians about the name of their country.'
• 'In the meantime, the Greek nationalism was growing. My 6-year old son one day came back from school 3 hours late, all excited. He told me that the teachers took all pupils to the port (we lived on the small island of Hydra), where they had to demonstrate. They gave them banners and told them to shout: "Europe, hands off from Macedonia. Macedonia is Greek!" My son didn't have a clue where and what is Macedonia, he was too young. When I got to the school to complain about this political indoctrination of the innocent little children, - and they could also tell my boy to shout "kill all gays" or that the women are not allowed to work, - I was told that if I don't like the Greek education, I might as well go back to Holland. When after Srebrenica I saw many Greek denying what happened there, that's what I did... I didn't want my kids to grow in a country so blind and nationalistic.
• 'Who would like to hear my story? I was a little journalist with a big opinion that nobody wanted to listen. Then, suddenly, Takis Michas called me, and told me he found out that Greek mercenaries were participating in the Srebrenica massacre. This was my chance: now my new employer was interested in this unheard story about the role of Greece in the Yugoslav war... My film "In a Greek Way" ("Op z'n Grieks") was made in October 2002, and it caused a lot of rage in Holland - they had no clue about this. Also, in Greece the film caused rage, and it was not even aired in any Greek TV. For me, it is most important that this film is aired in both Greece and Serbia.'
• 'One candidate from PASOK... had a poster where he poses together with Karadzhich... who was at that time one of the most wanted war criminals in the world, together with Osama bin Laden and Ratko Mladich... There are others, like mister Lykourezos, who is proud of his pictures with Mladich, Karadzhich and Miloshevich (he has an entire wall of these photos in his office), and openly denies everything that happened in Srebrenica... Most people in Hydra are still proud that they had Miloshevich as guest on their island.'
• 'The Greek mercenaries that participated in the killings in Srebrenica are well known, but they aren't brought to justice. The Greek cooperation with the Hague Tribunal is very poor, even today.'
• 'When the press tells lies to it's people for over a decade, and neither a politician nor any public figure stands up and tells the truth, the process will be slow. Somebody in Greece should apologize.'

Link: Ingeborg Beugel: Zbog Srebrenice sam napustila Grčku! (Sarajevo-x)

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Macedonians protest in front of the Greek Embassy

Representatives from the non-government organization "Macedonian civilization and future" protested today in front of the Greek Embassy in Skopje. The reason for this protest was the humiliating treatment of the four Macedonian truck drivers on the Macedonian - Greek border, who were forced to sweep the border crossing with brooms, before they can be passed to enter Macedonia.



The protesters had brooms, which they used to sweep the street in front of the embassy. Coming any closer was not possible due to the police barricades, but they were not necessary because the protest was peaceful.

"We came here to give a "golder broom" to the ambassador of Greece in Macedonia, which she earned by keeping the border crossings with Macedonia so clean. We also want to give them one broom each, so that they clean up a little on our side. They should rest assured that the lesson they taught us is well learned, and that it will be applied in the following period.", - said

Link: Protest in front of the Greek office (A1, in Macedonian language).

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Macedonian language debated in the International PEN Conference

"The Macedonian language exists and it is tightly connected to the Macedonian culture, the name of the country and it can not be denied. But despite that, the language is endangered, which is now an additional problem for the country, considering that now Greece and Bulgaria are playing on the same side, with increased intensity and more openly".



These are the words of Stefan Vlahov Micov, a professor from Bulgaria, with which he addressed the participants of the eleventh International PEN Conference in Ohrid, Macedonia. One of the topics of this year's conference is "freedom and fear".

"Unfortunately, in the Balkans, not only in Greece, the intellectual potential is tightly related to the state politics." - he concluded.

This is what I call "national science" and one of the best places to see it is by opening any Wikipedia article that talks about issues in the Balkans.

This national science is exactly what we don't need anymore in the Balkans. Getting rid of our politically-influenced sciences (i.e. "scientific propaganda") will help us exorcise our nationalistic demons from the past and start building tolerance and respect. This time for real.

I believe that Macedonia, as the country which is youngest among its neighbors (and that is, trust me, A BIG DEAL in the Balkans), currently pays the largest part of this price. That is why we are most interested in getting the lies out and reconciling the many "national truths" into one, common Balkan scientific truth. The truth shall set us free. Will the others follow?

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Kacin demands EU response following deterioration of Greek-Macedonian relations

The following text is a statement from MEP Jelko Kacin in regards to the incidents provoked by last-minute cancellations of flights from Macedonia to and over Greece, including the latest incident, when the Macedonian President was denied a permission to land in Athens, although he was INVITED by the Greek president and the president of UNESCO to participate in a water conference.



"The decision of the president of the Republic of Macedonia to decide of his own accord and in the name of his country to cancel his participation at an important international meeting in Athens concerning the urgent problem of the lack of water in this part of Europe represents a logical consequence of the pre-planned politics of Greece.

The unconvincing explanation from Athens which followed my public intervention in the EP concerning the unacceptable discrimination against the air passengers of MAT-Macedonian airlines, which was had its entry into Greek airspace unexpectedly denied after take-off only due to the name of the airline, now appears as the clear deception of a deputy and the public. It is not true that the Greek authorities acted in accordance with the rules and established practice. The flight to Egypt was canceled, the flight path changed, the aircraft was forced to land in Istanbul, find another air path, and re-fuel. The airline company was financially affected, the passengers discriminated against and made to wait in another airport, their holiday shortened and spoiled. The same would happen to the president of Macedonia, the country of the 'unlucky name', if he hadn’t acted with dignity at a state level, as a statesman.

This is clearly not an isolated incident. This is part of pre-planned politics, conscious provocations from Greece, which only add fuel to the fire of tense already inter-governmental relations. The consequences of emotional blockade, which poison the political atmosphere in the region and the wider area have outgrown the limits of the acceptable and threaten to spill over into dangerous conflicts in other areas. The time has come for us to defend the fundamental principles of intergovernmental relations. Now is the time for a decisive action and reaction from the EU institutions." - said Jelko Kacin.

Link: Kacin demands EU response following deterioration of Greek-Macedonian relations.

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Macedonians forced to sweep at Greek border crossing

The Greek customs officials continue to humiliate Macedonians on their entry or exit through the Macedonian - Greek border. This time, the target of their sadistic behavior were four truck drivers, Marijan Kaevikj, Alexandar Bozhinovski and Oliver Mladenovski from Skopje, as well as Milan Dimovski from Kochani.



This morning at 5 o'clock, the four drivers were not allowed to pass the border at Star Dojran and enter Macedonia, until they fulfilled the "condition": the customs officers forced them to sweep the border crossing with brooms, and to pick up the garbage.

After they completed the humiliating task, they were allowed to enter Macedonia, where they immediately reported this incident to the Macedonian police, which in turn informed the Ministry of Exterior.

There is an increasing number of reports where Macedonians are being treated badly by the mobs or, even worse, official Greek employees. One of the most common victims of this rising fascism in Greece are truck drivers, who have no choice than to drive in and out of this hostile racist country.

The official Athens seems to be just fine with these incidents. For example, after several truck drivers were beaten by a mob last month in Greece, in front of the eyes of Greek policemen, the official response of the Greek government was that "the issue was not significant for them to waste time on it".

Just yesterday, Greece forbid the Macedonian president's plane to land in Athens for a United Nations Forum. The reason for this last minute refusal, despite the previous invitation by the Greek president Karolos Papoulias and the head of UNESCO, was the international code for Macedonia which was displayed on the plane. This code proved to be too much for some hysteric Macedonian haters to digest.

Link: Macedonians forced to sweep a Greek border crossing (A1, in Macedonian language).

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The Macedonians of Greece - А report by Human Rights Watch

I would like to present you a very interesting report, it’s about:

The Macedonians of Greece
Denying Ethnic Identity

By Human Rights Watch, 1994.

This report is based on information gathered by a fact-finding mission in the Macedonian region in northern Greece. In July 1993, organized and co-ordinated by the Minority Rights Group-Greece. The participants were Panayote Dimitras, representing the Minority Rights Group-Greece; Erik Siesby, head of the Danish Helsinki Committee; and Lois Whitman, the Deputy Director of Human Rights Watch/Helsinki. The report was written by Lois Whitman and edited by Jeri Laber, the Executive Director of Human Rights Watch /Helsinki.

The Greek Fogeign Ministry, which initially refused to meet with the three groups making up the fact-finding mission, was subsequently very cooperative with Human Rights Watch / Helsinki in answering questions and providing information. Macedonian rights activists were very helpful in providing interviews and information, sometimes at considerable risk. In many cases activists and others interviewed by the mission requested that their names not be used, for fear of retaliation by authorities.

Here is a small excerpt from the book:

On the basis of the evidence obtained during the fact-finding mission, Human Rights Watch/Helsinki has concluded that:

1. an ethnic Macedonian minority with its own language and culture exists in northern Greece;
2. the Greek government has denied the ethnic identity of the ethnic Macedonian minority in violation of international human rights laws and agreements. This is evidenced by open statements by Greek officials; by the government's denial of the existence of a Macedonian language; by the government's refusal to permit a "Center of Macedonian Culture;" and by the government's refusal in the recent past to permit the performance of Macedonian songs and dances;
3. freedom of expression is restricted for ethnic Macedonians in violation of international human rights laws. Some rights activists have been prosecuted and convicted for the peaceful expression of their views; although some of these charges were eventually dropped due to a recent change in the law, some convictions are still in effect;
4. the Greek government discriminates against the ethnic Macedonian minority in violation of international laws and agreements to which it is a party;
5. ethnic Macedonian political refugees who fled northern Greece after the Greek Civil War, as well as their descendants who define themselves as "Macedonians," are denied permission to regain their citizenship, to resettle, or to visit northern Greece; in contrast, political refugees who define themselves as Greeks are permitted to do so;
6. the teaching of the Macedonian language is not permitted;
7. ethnic Macedonians were discriminated against in employment in the public sector in the past, and may suffer from such discrimination at present; the Greek government should examine its employment practices to determine whether such discrimination exists today;
8. ethnic Macedonians, and particularly Macedonian rights activists, are harassed by the government, followed and threatened by security forces, and subjected to economic and social pressures resulting from government harassment; this has led to a marked climate of fear in which many ethnic Macedonians are reluctant to assert their Macedonian identity or to express their views openly.

If you are asking yourself: "what has changed in these 14 years since the report was published?", I will answer you - NOTHING! Since 1913, and especially after the World War II, Greece is organizing and implementing a silent ethnic genocide of the entire "non-greek" population, especially in Aegean Macedonia. The name issue is just the tip of this monstrous legacy.



Read more: The Macedonians of Greece (mirror).

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Greece is an unworthy EU member

Below is an excerpt from an article "Greece is an unworthy EU member" by Gunnar Nissen (Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten), written on March 9, 1999 (before the recent Greek hysteria). Mr. Nissen gives a quick retrospective of the Greek problem with the name "Macedonia" and the Balkan climate that resulted is such an irrational monolateral dispute, coming from Greece. I think it illustrates how the rest of the informed Europeans perceive Greece, judging by its actions.



First, about the reasons for blocking Macedonia's accession in the United Nations:

The Greeks gave us a reason for not recognizing the Republic of Macedonia, that "we have a Macedonia here in Greece and thus there cannot be a Macedonia just on the opposite site of the border". The logic in this is absurd and I'm ashamed that so many ignorant journalists quoted the Greek reason without comments. Apparently they were unaware that Macedonia is split between three different countries.

After a meeting in Brussels, where the EU-recognition of the state of Macedonia was postponed, although Macedonia fulfilled all requirements for recognition, the then Danish foreign minister, Uffe Elleman-Jensen, in a final salute as EU chairman, commented to the Greeks that they had to get themselves together and get the problem solved, concerning the name Macedonia and called it despicable of the Greeks to treat the Macedonians in this way.

And the conclusion at the end of the article:

When a person misbehaves, it is in the first line the closest people's duty to intervene. National oppression is taking place in many countries outside the EU. But Greece is an EU member and is thus a "part of the family". But do we intervene, we, the closest people? No, we shut up. Of ignorance or misunderstood solidarity with the Greek leaders, who as the Serbs, consider themselves "superbalkanian". Other people knows more about the oppression than I, but I know a great many and every year more ignored and oppressed Macedonians in the Greek part of Macedonia. Can we justify our silence? I'm sure that Greece' unwillingness to accept the Republic of Macedonia is due to their black conscience over the oppression of Macedonians in Greece. Greece is (yet another) unworthy member of the EU.

And here is also one of the comments that someone submitted as a response to the article:

"Personally, I have found that whenever I have long conversation with EEC politicians or officials, there always comes a point when they say, "Between you and me, I can't understand how we ever let Greece in." With its peculiar brand of paranoid nationalism, Greece's foreign policy is now the biggest single impediment to any sensible EEC policy in the Balkans; and if the Greek public mood intensifies any further, it may threaten not only the future of Macedonia but the territorial integrity of Albania as well. Amid all the discussions about the procedure for new members to join the EEC, has anyone thought of a polite way of inviting one member to leave?" - Noel Malcolm, English writer, historian, and journalist.

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